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by Wingman
Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

I wonder if the Navy is getting some pushback from somewhere about the canyon. They were incredibly lucky with this one. -- nobody died. Those French tourists will be living with this for the rest of their lives -- there are apparently large skin grafts scheduled on at least two of those folks -- as...
by Wingman
Sat Aug 03, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

I guess Y'all are right -- I'll shut up about the subject. Hopefully nothing more will happen -- losing a member of their community this way will likely suppress some of the wilder fighter stuff in the canyon for a while. I'll still enjoy the jets occasionally -- I always have, though sitting in the...
by Wingman
Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

Always worth remembering that these things may be flown by over motivated 25 year olds, but they are maintained largely by undermotivated 20 year olds.
by Wingman
Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:15 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

Interesting -- I wonder how it's all going to play out. I'm surprised at how little nationwide coverage the crash is getting. You'd think a bunch of people scorched and cut up by an unnecessary military screw up would get more attention.
by Wingman
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:51 am
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

I'm tired of "sacrifice places". We have for all intents and purposes lost the Racetrack as a special place of silence and solitude. Ditto for Badwater and significant amounts of the salt flats. Butte Valley is a freeway much of the year. There's nothing much original about Mesquite Dunes any more. ...
by Wingman
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

That highway and rest area have been there a long time. Plus it's a National Park! I've driven that road dozens of times over the last 40 years. I didn't start seeing significant use by the Navy til 4 or 5 years ago. We have watched with concern in recent seasons as whole new parking areas and use p...
by Wingman
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

What makes this more dangerous is that they are pointed straight at that parking lot and viewpoint during part of that turn. That canyon is extremely dangerous to the pilots because of the turning course down it. If you mistime your turns at all you are dead -- there's no way out if you blow it. If ...
by Wingman
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured
Replies: 46
Views: 2772

Re: A jet crashes in the DV area, several onlookers injured

It seems obvious to me that that training route just needs to be closed -- end of problem. That has always been a very dangerous flight through that canyon. This accident was inevitable.
by Wingman
Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: Scotty's Castle road repairs in progress
Replies: 14
Views: 1876

Re: Scotty's Castle road repairs in progress

I think the newer palms at the Inn were planted somewhat against the Park's wishes. They suck up a lot of water. A few years ago there was an accidental fire that consumed the palm trees at the main spring that supplies the Ranch and facilities in that area. After that fire water flowed for most of ...
by Wingman
Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: 6.4 earthquake in Ridgecrest
Replies: 10
Views: 842

Re: 6.4 earthquake in Ridgecrest

Anybody in Death Valley for the quake? One news report said the epicenter was "on the border of Death Valley National Park". Sounds like the big damage is in the Trona and Rdgecrest area, though, so that epicenter seems suspect...
by Wingman
Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: Death Valley Backcountry
Topic: former site of Georges cabin / Last Chance range
Replies: 7
Views: 4300

The last stretch of road was getting a bit iffy for large vehicles the last time I was up there a couple of years ago, due to gravel and debris washig down the hill onto the old road. You are pretty off camber for a few yards. It was quite doable but we felt better with one of us outside the vehicle...
by Wingman
Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:13 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: Does anyone know whose graves these are?
Replies: 6
Views: 3020

I'd be interested too. I've wandered about that area quite a bit and never run across this.

Neal
by Wingman
Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:16 pm
Forum: Western Places
Topic: Tonopah hospital closes, leaving medical care 100 miles away
Replies: 4
Views: 4936

Poor Tonopah -- seems to be just kind of melting away...
by Wingman
Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:40 pm
Forum: Death Valley Talk
Topic: Changes afoot in DV Junction, Furnace Creek (pics)
Replies: 16
Views: 8255

Growing herb is quite water intensive, and that is looking like pretty good sized facility. I wonder what it's going to do to the water table around there.

What is Death Valley Junction's water source?
by Wingman
Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: Literature & Research
Topic: Hiking the Mojave Desert by Michel Digonnet
Replies: 16
Views: 20431

The big difference with the new edition is information on hiking in the Owlsheads. It also has a considerably expanded section on Warm Springs Canyon and Butte Valley.

Neal