Maple Tree?

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Maple Tree?

Post by wbdeford » Sun May 06, 2018 5:40 am

I came across a tree with a few little "helicopter" type seeds on it, at about 8000 ft. The tree itself is almost white and no leaves were on it when I was there in April. Is this a maple? Anyone know what kind of tree it is?


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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by Gowergulch42 » Sun May 06, 2018 2:16 pm

I do not know what it is, but I can assure you it does not look like a maple tree :grin:
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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by D.A. Wright » Mon May 07, 2018 9:44 am

Kind of looks like a dead mountain mahogany to me.
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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by RD23 » Mon May 07, 2018 4:20 pm

Possibly Mountain Maple

Acer glabrum
Aceraceae (Maple Family)


Description: Mountain Maple is a deciduous shrub or small tree that may reach a height of twenty feet, but is usually somewhat shorter. Leaves are composed of three leaflets with stems that are often bright red. Flowers are tiny and green. The fruit is a pair of winged achenes.
Habitat: Mountain Maple grows at elevations between 6500 and 10400 feet. It is likely to be found growning near water sources. Otherwise, it is found throughout the southwest.

Flowering Season: Flowers form during April and May.

Comments: There are three varieties of Mountain Maple that are present in California (diffusum, greenei, and torreyi). The one that is found in the Death Valley area is A. glabrum var. diffusum.

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Post by Gowergulch42 » Mon May 07, 2018 11:56 pm

Well strike me down as incorrect! Sure is a far cry from the maples I'm used to seeing here in the wet northwest, but that mountain maple looks like a good match, and the Panamints are listed as within the occurring range of the plant.
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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by wbdeford » Thu May 10, 2018 3:23 pm

The park staff IDd the tree for me. It is an Acer glabrum var. diffusum.....Rocky Mountain Maple. According to this site, a number of these have been identified in the upper Panamints:

http://www.calflora.org/entry/observ.ht ... t=r&cc=INY

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Post by MojaveGeek » Thu May 10, 2018 3:46 pm

I would have agreed with D. A. :) interesting.

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Post by wbdeford » Thu May 10, 2018 4:30 pm

They also said they are very colorful in the fall.....when is that at 8000 ft?

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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by D.A. Wright » Fri May 11, 2018 8:31 am

Good find and associated info! :thumb:

I’m not good with trees. Having lived the majority of my life in lands with few to no trees, I can’t see the forest for the trees ... :dezdan:
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Maple Tree? Who woulda thunk?

Post by Death Valley Dazed » Fri May 11, 2018 11:54 am

Following this thread was fascinating and surprising. My favorite national park continues to reveal her little secrets and mysteries.

Have there ever been any Bigfoot sightings in the park? If Bigfoot loves bristlecone pine trees then maybe there will be sighting?
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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by wbdeford » Fri May 11, 2018 2:07 pm

D.A. Wright wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 8:31 am
Good find and associated info! :thumb:

I’m not good with trees. Having lived the majority of my life in lands with few to no trees, I can’t see the forest for the trrs ... :dezdan:
I appreciate them much more in the desert than I do in Ohio where we have zillions of them, and have to deal with the leaves every fall.

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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by MojaveGeek » Sat May 12, 2018 12:15 pm

In the same vein (could make a pun there with the maple leaves), did you see and bristlecone pines on Telescope? I don't recall if there are any up there. Definitely some nice ones on the ridge to the south, beyond the end of the trail.

I have a garage full for maple logs from trees downed in our spring New England storms. I'll have to split them in the fall, but they will keep us nice and warm this winter!

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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by Death Valley Dazed » Sun May 13, 2018 9:29 pm

MojaveGeek wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:15 pm
did you see and bristlecone pines on Telescope?
Oh yeah, lots of lovely Bristlecone Pines on Telescope. So many that I did a video study dedicated to that portion of their forest.

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Re: Maple Tree?

Post by wbdeford » Wed May 16, 2018 2:22 pm

Yes....I love the bristlecones. I just noticed yesterday in my pics that a number of these Rocky Mountain Maples can be seen from the crest near "the red spot":


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Brian's maple tree grove

Post by Death Valley Dazed » Tue May 22, 2018 7:50 am

wbdeford wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 2:22 pm
I just noticed yesterday in my pics that a number of these Rocky Mountain Maples can be seen from the crest near "the red spot":
Brian, I was not sure about the exact location of your maples so I blew up your photo and to my delight discovered a whole grove of maples in your image. Maybe some of these light spots are rock outcroppings but I think most are your maples. How many of these are maples?

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