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Post by MojaveGeek » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:29 pm

The visitor center and NPS campgrounds closed yesterday. Folks moved to SPW campground (the non-NPS side) but they seem to have all been kicked out (it is empty right now) and the SPW lodging is closing effective tmw morning. I don't know about FC or PSR (which was open when we drove through yesterday). On another note, I was told by someone at Father Crowley overlook yesterday that the Navy has started flying through Rainbow Canyon this week.

We were out on the Cottonwood road and there were a number of people in sedans and stuff out there; I guess it is one of the few places one can stay.

Flowers are starting to come out, but seems few will be here to see them. Did the Willow / Sidewinder loop a few days ago and the washes were looking good. Beautiful brittle bush on the curves on 190 between Fr. Crowley and PSR.

It's been a nice place for social distancing but looks like our trip out here is over - don't have camping gear.

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Post by rca076 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:25 pm

All campgrounds are closed and the Visitor Center is closed as well. But, the park remains open to the public,right??

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Post by TacoLand » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:37 pm

Glad you got the chance to do the Willow / Sidewinder Loop, but ... sorry the rest of your trip was ruined.

I saw some wildflowers last week here and there, but spoke with a guy who said down near Ibex was having a great wildflower bloom. Also noticed when driving up and out of the Park via Father Crowley that the parking lot was open now. But completely devoid of cars, including the dirt lot just past Father Crowley.

I'm going to roll the dice and head down on Wednesday for 4 nights. Making sure to camp out on 4x4 roads like Lemoigne and Butte Valley. Also 100% prepared to pull the plug immediately if we get down there and it's a shit show.

Last I saw Park is open to the public and not charging an entrance fee. News as of 7 hours ago says Furnace Creek & Stovepipe Wells are CLOSED, minus gas stations and convenience stores. Make sure to check them out the Park on Facebook for latest info – https://www.facebook.com/DeathValleyNPS/

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Post by shane » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:56 pm

Sorry about the abbreviated trip MG. My wife’s work is Covid-19 relevant and it’s non stop work for her for the near future so our planned trip for next week Is canceled. Looks like it’s going to be great weather too! :mad:

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Post by TacoLand » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:12 pm

Just saw Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered all of California to stay home. Was already feeling kind of weird about 5 days of backcountry with everything going on and this is the nail in the coffin.

Take care & be well, my friends.

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Post by TrailHound » Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:01 am

I cancelled a reservation at the Atomic Inn in Beatty two days ago. They must have been open as someone answered the phone. I don't know if they plan to stay open or if Beatty will shutdown. It would be a shame to lose the small businesses in Beatty if they can't survive with no customers.

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Post by MojaveGeek » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:26 am

FC lodging is closed too I found out, no surprise. No idea about PSR. Beatty is in NV and all "non essential" business has been closed. I think only restaurants that do takeout, not sure of that. No casinos. Some Strip hotels closed but there is no hotel/motel closure that I know of.

Camping out on a back road would be a great and safe way to spend time. No crowds out here at all now! I am not sure the CA county level closures apply to Inyo, mostly the Bay Area right now?

Just for scale, late yesterday PM there were about 5 parties camping on the Cottonwood road between SPW and the drop into the canyon. Usually I'd expect only a couple, but not a crowd.

Packing up and will do some hike on the way out.

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Post by netllama » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:10 pm

MojaveGeek wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:26 am
FC lodging is closed too I found out, no surprise. No idea about PSR. Beatty is in NV and all "non essential" business has been closed. I think only restaurants that do takeout, not sure of that. No casinos. Some Strip hotels closed but there is no hotel/motel closure that I know of.

Camping out on a back road would be a great and safe way to spend time. No crowds out here at all now! I am not sure the CA county level closures apply to Inyo, mostly the Bay Area right now?

Just for scale, late yesterday PM there were about 5 parties camping on the Cottonwood road between SPW and the drop into the canyon. Usually I'd expect only a couple, but not a crowd.

Packing up and will do some hike on the way out.

Its no longer just county level closures. The entire state is now under a "shelter in place" order. That said, visiting the park is still permitted, but I'd be leery of people who are taking advantage of the current situation to engage in foolish, dangerous or illegal activities.

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Post by Kauri » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:34 pm

netllama wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:10 pm
Its no longer just county level closures. The entire state is now under a "shelter in place" order. That said, visiting the park is still permitted, but I'd be leery of people who are taking advantage of the current situation to engage in foolish, dangerous or illegal activities.
Agreed, I'm concerned some of the parks could get trashed like they did during the government shutdown.
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Post by MojaveGeek » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:29 pm

Well, I saw a law enforcement ranger on the road today, that's more than I usually see :)

In any case, it would seem to me I'd be as safe or safer out camping alone in the back country than staying in my own house and getting incoming mail, etc. But it wasn't an option for me as I did not have adequate gear. There's plenty of people in the park, camped down the Echo Canyon road, Slab Camp, etc. I don't see any reason not to do something you love, rather than just waiting at home to try to fight the viral survival odds. And the daily news is just so depressing.

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Post by wbdeford » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:25 am

I'm still hoping to be there in late April out in the back country, alone.....I hope it is still allowed at that time.

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Post by TacoLand » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:38 am

I received a mass email from Garmin two days ago confirming that SOS signal on satellite device will still work, followed by this:
Note: Please recreate responsibly and consider the pressure currently on the emergency and medical community as well as local quarantine mandates that may impact rescue teams.
That, coupled with the fact that my partner and I both have older parents in town that might need assistance with God knows what these days ... just couldn't justify dropping off the grid for any length of days at this point in time. Hopefully by late April we'll have established some sort of routine, but right now too many changing variable for me to risk it.

Also read an article this morning pleading with climbers & outdoor rec people to stop flooding places like Bishop, Calif. Sounds like some folks are treating the quarantine like it's a great time to get outside (good idea) and congregate (bad idea).

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Post by Kauri » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:32 am

TacoLand wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:38 am
I received a mass email from Garmin two days ago confirming that SOS signal on satellite device will still work, followed by this:
Note: Please recreate responsibly and consider the pressure currently on the emergency and medical community as well as local quarantine mandates that may impact rescue teams.
That, coupled with the fact that my partner and I both have older parents in town that might need assistance with God knows what these days ... just couldn't justify dropping off the grid for any length of days at this point in time. Hopefully by late April we'll have established some sort of routine, but right now too many changing variable for me to risk it.

Also read an article this morning pleading with climbers & outdoor rec people to stop flooding places like Bishop, Calif. Sounds like some folks are treating the quarantine like it's a great time to get outside (good idea) and congregate (bad idea).
Yeah, too many folks are flooding the popular scenic places right now. I live in west Marin, near Point Reyes, and yesterday it was busier than I've ever seen it, in over 20 years of living here. And it sounds like most of the folks were from out of town. We were getting news reports that the beaches were so crowded that there was no way to practice social distancing.
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Post by MojaveGeek » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:14 pm

There were large crowds out around Las Vegas on Saturday, but these were generally locals. Personally I think it is great to get out and away from the depressing news for a while, enjoy life in the little bits that you can. It is easy to practice social distance in the desert! But, having flown home today through very empty airports, I'm not about to board a plane to travel again for some time, and just doing the travel exposes you to a lot - and you don't want to get sick on the other side.

There is lots of tension between popular vacation destinations and visitors. They want the visitors, and tax revenue from their summer homes, when they can make money off of them (fair) but don't want they when they may bring bad news. I'm mixed on this, but mostly would prefer to be in my home city, which has great medical care, if I need it.

Joshua Tree closed, Yosemite closed, the BLM closed some areas around LV (the Red Rocks Scenic Loop road, the Sloan Canyon road, for example). Badwater, Zabriskie, and the Dunes parking areas are closed.

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Post by Kauri » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:19 pm

I just read this very well written article about why it's a good idea to avoid traveling during the pandemic, and I thought I'd share it here:

https://americanadventurist.com/a-messa ... venturist/
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